Arch-linux building from source – and Obarun to the rescue

What if, there was a benefit in building from source, a system that is commonly used by pre-fabricated binary packages, like Arch or any of its forks and desktop flavors?  What Arch considers a “clean-chroot” is primarily of need to developers ensuring their package can be both satisfied for all dependencies AND are reproducible, as long as this can be achieved within a constantly rolling distribution.  That is open and nearly free condition for you.


Building in a clean chroot prevents missing dependencies in packages, whether due to unwanted linking or packages missing in the depends array in the PKGBUILD. It also allows users to build a package for the stable repositories (core, extra, community) while having packages from [testing] installed.

Scratch most of this for several reasons.  We are not developers, we are building our own system like Gentoo-ers, k1ss-ers, Crux-ers, and others do.  We want to make sure that each of our packages fits well within the parameters of our specific machine, and it wasn’t built on another machine that may not be 100% compatible to ours. Continue reading

antiX – runit – brief stop and onto s6 and 66 : How to

1st some history/background:
Back some time ago an alternative to sysvinit was developed called daemontools (look at sources below) and people liked it.   From “it” runit was cloned, very similar but started from scratch, to be as small, as light, as simple, and as responsive as hw itself.  Runit set some goals for its development, kept being refined and eliminating any bugs, it worked on as many architectures as people could get their hands on, and the chief runit man decided to put it to bed.  Runit has been frozen in time by its developer.  Don’t expect it to catch up with other system development unless Void decides to clone it and develop it on their own, which in some ways they already do, but it is more polishing up the existing runit.

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Where to move to after Arch-Linux-based non-systemd systems?

VD, HIV, STD, Zstd

The deeper issue here is “what is the relationship of Arch-Linux and Orwell?”

Two of the most common intrusive sites reported by linux users that are placed on top of the list of a firewall, so nothing goes in and out between their machine and those sites’ servers, are Google and Facebook.  Google on the one hand, in order to play nice against the free/open software community, has been contributing resources, information, and free/open software to improve their image.  MS purchased github, IBM purchased RedHat, or should we say they made their relationship more formal.  Some developers have fallen for it.  Facebook on the other hand is notorious of flooding the machines of their innocent and unsuspecting users with questionable code.  Facebook not only knows who you really are, what you really like, what you think and what you are interested in, in the vast majority of cases they know in real time your exact location and may even have the capability of keeping track of your moves.  Simply if you have an account on facebook and accessed it once through your “smart” phone, they know.  If you access facebook from your desktop, but on smart phone you only use your google account, they know.  They, they, who is they?  If you are really asking we can go on comments for as far as you can take it. Continue reading

Keep It Simple Stupid Linux, Kiss for short


I’d like to inform you about my new Linux distribution called KISS.


Independent (not based on anything else).
Source based (like gentoo or crux).
Busybox coreutils.
Busybox init (busybox includes runit style services, sysvinit style services or plain shell scripts)
Musl libc.
No dbus.
No pam.
No polkit.
No systemd.
No gettext/intltool.
Packages compile without Telemetry/tracking.

Dylan Araps

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Update 02/22/2020

by Oneirosopher:


Hi yee all,

I’m not in charge of KISS Linux, just interested by this distro –which I have not installed by the way.

The link to KISS Linux is broken. The former site seems abandoned. Please now follow:

It seems that the same Dylan has also conceived neofetch & sowm


Penetration testing (pentesting) distribution without systemd

Interesting inquiry that has lead searchers to this site for an answer but hasn’t yet specifically been answered.  So I will take a shot at answering this.

Basically, and as far as I know, there is a Gentoo based distribution specific to this task and as it is based on Gentoo it is easily free of systemd, although if you really like systemd I am pretty sure you can have it on Gentoo.  This narrows down to options based on Debian (kali and parrot), and Arch (blackarch and archstrike).    There may be others we don’t know of yet. Continue reading

Adélie Linux – work in progress I’d like to draw your attention to a young and promising project called Adélie Linux.  Adélie Linux is a Free, Libre operating system based on the Linux kernel. Their goals of full POSIX® compliance, built on musl compatibility with a wide variety of computers, and ease of use without sacrificing features set them apart from most other Linux distributions.  Sysvinit, openrc, and S6 are available to customize your installation to specific needs.  Adélie Linux is also independent and built from the ground up, not based on major distributions (Arch, Debian), or Gentoo, or Alpine, as some will immaturely conclude.

Download 1.0-BETA1

Edit Dec 22 2018 – Adelie 1.0-beta2 is now available and possibly the last step before the first stable Adelie 1 is released.

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A year has passed and systemd is still around

There couldn’t be a better birthday gift to than an active community participation as in the dbus exorcism thread that has an active discussion on the project.

A year has gone by and the “service daemon” systemd is still prevalent in the number of linux distributions; we can’t speculate on the number of users.  So we are not as effective and as “organized” as a community to defeat it yet.  Therefore we must try harder.  We should take a step back though and assess the status and development of the community consciously striving to stay away from systemd, its derivatives, and its relatives. Continue reading

Will your installation work without dbus? by: Anti-DBus

Remove DBus, ConsoleKit, PolicyKit, PAM, new udev, systemd, freedesktop cancer

by: Anti-DBus

Greetings. I have completed a successful DBus removal. Stragglers were ghostscript-gpl, which was removed, cups, which was also removed and all the dependent programs recompiled to live without it, changing it for lprng (the old Berkeley printer spooler, updated), barring icedtea-bin, which was changed to icedtea and built without any build time dependency, sgt-puzzles (removed), winetricks (sadly removed), qtwidgets (all the programs that needed it were recompiled to not to), qtbittorrent (changed for rtorrent as rutorrent has php and bloat), libreoffice (changed for openoffice-bin, as amazingly it doesn’t have need for dbus or even GTK3; it was chosen to avoid sketchy Chinese poor support and paid support office suites such as WPS and Softmaker), notification-daemon (I actually never used it for anything, ever, as redshift pops up its icon without a notification), nvidia-drivers (recompiled without tools), and such. Continue reading

History of Arch without systemd

archartixWhile researching the development of consolekit and its fork, consolekit2, I run into a really interesting thread in the Arch forum.  This was the beginning of Arch-OpenRC it seems and this is how the Arch hierarchy dealt with the inquiry and proposals.  The very first thing they did was to hide the thread from search engines, visible only to registered users.  Then they tried to push the guy in pursuit of this project to do what he wants elsewhere, not seek collaboration through the Arch forum.  The guy is none other than @Artoo, the force behind the Manjaro-OpenRC project, and one of the people who last year founded Artix. Continue reading

Cross reference table for package management (apt pacman emerge — debian arch gentoo)

For arch, debian, gentoo, users who want to try one of the other two distributions or their derivatives, one of the obstacles is package management.  It is the primary thing among linux distributions that differs and when a user has become accustomed to one, the other will just not do. You frequently hear “arch is wonderful but pacman is a pain in ….”, or “debian is great but I just can’t stand apt”.   And everyone hates emerge.  In a way they can all do what the others do just that the format of the commands and the procedures behind the commands differ.  After all, whether binary or code, you download it, or copy it from somewhere, then you compile it if it is not already compiled, then install it and its dependent files in the appropriate locations in the system.

Arch wiki has a great table and article on this specific subject, Pacman/Rosetta it only incorporates RH and OpenSuse, which we don’t want to reproduce here.  We edited the table to make it more specific on those three systems, debian (based as in Refracta, Antix, MX, Devuan, etc), arch (based, artix, obarun, hyperbola, archbang), and Gentoo (redcore, CloverOS, etc). Continue reading

What if there was an easy way to install Gentoo?

It is called CloverOS and it is quick.

The CloverOS image is about 1.1GB, it has a live system with various WM (window managers) that start and the installer window will pop open once the WM is up.  It asks you to partition and specify the partition for the installation’s root, root password, username and pw, and 10′ later you have a complete Gentoo installation ready to boot. Continue reading

kernelKurtz: What’s up with the hate towards Freedesktop?

kernelKurtz, aka kK, has been a supporter and contributor of this site since its inception.  This came as a comment to an article by FigOSdev on dbus but it deserves its own space.

Here he takes a shot at Freedesktop and gang.

reddit:  What’s up with the hate towards Freedesktop?

It’s not about hate, random reddit OP. But it is about a severe difference in what people think is important.

These corporate persons want standardization and homogeneity on their own terms. They want open source cachet and finding a way to monetize it, and they don’t give a rat’s ass about the four freedoms, or what happens to the people that Bill Gates once sneered at as “hobbyists”. They are Google and Microsoft and everyone else who can afford to buy a seat on the board of the Linux Foundation. Red Hat probably too, sad to say. Their motto is do no evil, until evil is profitable, and then pick another slogan, because buttering the bread is what life is all about. Continue reading