Coming up next the new sysdfree resurrection

Just so when “some” were happy this is done and over with, POP goes the sysdfree community project again.  From now on, we will have a summary article of what is coming up next, and a series of articles discussing in detail the most worthy or note-worthy topics of interest.  Since  YOU haven’t been contributiong much to the community, it will be OUR topics of interest.

Why did we vanish for a little while?  After all this closure and prohibition to end the covid diaspora we have been burning some skinny road bike tires enjoying the end of spring and the starrt of a very HOT summer.  So now that it is getting hot, we will stay indoors again enough to write something up.  Yeeahhheee!!!! Or is it Yaaayyyy….!!!

1  Devuan:  Boring new stable release a year later  (you wanted an article .. go find one elsewhere).

2  Debian:  Script that runs and removes systemd and installs sysvinit and reboots to a systemd init free system.

3  Adelie (and Alpine) free and non-free independent repository

4  Black Artix, as if Artix wasn’t shady enough

5  Adequacy of traditions scripts (sysV or BSD inits) necessity of supervision suites (s6, 66, synit, minit, perp) or other alternatives such as OpenRC.

6  Split Linux, based on Void, security, anonymity, real firewalling, and more ….

7  Enough with supervising dry-cut monolythic services, the future is in modules (modular services and bundles of services).  If systemd was already burried and done with, this builds a pyramid on top, just so nobody will ever dear to open the mummy’s coffin.

8  Live streaming with Terry Barentsen on 2 wheels, no gas or dirty coal electric motors!

9  Kiss gets a new package manager

10  The shit (green energy environmental disaster) has to stop.  A documentary about the end of the planet’s ecosystem and who are the deceiving actors causing it.  It may be the most revealing 100′ of your life, or at least your recent world perception.

11  A song for our own resurrection:

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Debian based distibutions without systemd running testing

Beware:

If you have been running testing while Stretch (9) was stable you were indirectly following Debian Buster (10).  Since debian 10 Buster became stable today July 7th, those using testing instead of Buster repositories will be automatically jumping to the next release, called Bullseye (Debian 11).  The official Devuan repositories automatically “merge” debian and devuan packages, so testing will remain Buster till Devuan releases 3 (Beowulf) and therefore testing will become Devuan Chimaera.  If manually you have added Debian testing be careful of incompatibilities.  (some people do this, will swap Devuan merged for Devuan/devuan, and add a debian repository directly). Continue reading

New systemd-less build on Devuan and Poppy

by DevuanDog:

A new distro without systemd has reached alpha stage : Devuandog
Here is a post about it : https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/Readme-build-devuandog-beowulf.html

What does developer have to say about systemd?

I chose for Devuan as a base (instead of Debian) because AFAIK the new expected Debian ‘stable’ (buster) doesn’t give the choice anymore to boot without systemd (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115124). Continue reading

We are a systemd free linux community

Edited again: 2018-11-15

As the previous site started out (08/2017) of the temporary need for Artix users to meet and exchange experiences, share solutions to problems, now that Artix has its official site, we have decided to move in the direction the site had already taken anyway.  Freedom and equality of access and exchange of information.

Antix is to Debian what Obarun is to Arch, and Devuan is to debian what Artix is to arch.  Such projects/distributions seem to be very promising in concept and execution.  Equally promising, if not more, is Void and Adélie linux taking an independent path.  Unfortunately we can not cover the progress of too many distros and at times we may have to drop a few from the list and concentrate on the few we believe there is future and hope.  We have dropped Devuan over a year ago due to serious doubts with the project’s management, and now we have decided Artix has to go too. Continue reading

The Great Devuan Mystery– Finally Solved?

by FigOSdev

Silly title is silly– I have a serious point to make, though I’m not obligated to be serious about every jot and tittle. Once upon a time, the free software movement had a sense of humour.

Dissatisfaction breeds theories as to what is really wrong; and while I have entertained (and continue to entertain) whatever people tell me may or may not be wrong with Devuan, I also entertain (and even lean towards) the possibility that it is entirely legitimate. Continue reading

What is a distro – anyway?

After some puzzling evidence in trying to revise a list of non-systemd init distributions, forks, clones, derivatives, and “retouches” in which FigOS didn’t seem to be easily admitted, and in our quest to come up with explicit guidelines of what is what on the list, and….. since we are not developers and/or distro publishers ourselves, we decided to get some guidance of someone who has published a complete operating system himself what he thinks.  Let’s see what he has to say about it.

 

What is a Distro? (by FigOSdev)

Defining a distro in a technical way is probably useful, if it can be done accurately. For non-technical people, I explain that a distro is:
“Like the’ make and model’ of a car– except that it can replace all the software on your computer.”

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My own experience with devuan (by codeinfig)

 

“i disapprove of your text editor, but i will defend to the death your right to use it.” — voltaire

Critics and fans should be able to agree that devuan is an effort built on grandiose claims. the reason is simple: the claims made are grandiose. if devuan wanted to deny that, all that had to do is make more modest claims.

If you make grandiose claims, you are also going to create critics who love to point out how you fall short. you might just be ambitious enough to live up to them even partway– and in my opinion, devuan is not made entirely of claims. so far, it delivers. Continue reading

On the question of Arch based, Debian based, and independent

Now that our single Debian person has distanced *self from Devuan (systemd free Debian) and the rest of us made a new Arch person, we must answer a question relating to the discontinuity of Devuan coverage.  What is so different in Arch world from the Debian world?  Why is this importance in tor/onion networking internal to Debian that is less relevant in Arch?  We have identified several attributes that we consider different.

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Runit as 2nd stage service supervisor on Devuan & postfix – continued

This is a sequence of 2 posts by Geoff in Devuan’s forum @ dev1.galaxy.org

This is too good to pass or edit so I am incorporating the whole “wiki item on runit and postfix”

Having read the message on DNG by Steve Litt about process supervisors :-

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … d3.en.html

I was inspired to investigate for myself. This is not a recipe on how to use runit as your init system, but some notes on using runit as a stage 2 process supervisor.

Of the supervisors mentioned by Steve, only runit was available in the jessie repository so that is what I had a look at. Continue reading

Devuan testing new amprolla3 powered repository

If you like to test the new amprolla3 powered repository system here is a small list of optional /etc/apt/sources.list

deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-backports main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ ascii-proposed-security main contrib non-free
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