2 How to remove systemd from Debian Buster

As mentioned in the proposed topics of July2nd2020 this is article 2 from that list.

This came from a community member as a proposed topic.

How to remove systemd from Debian Buster

older-pig:  A guide for removing systemd from Debian Buster and fixes for some issues which may occur because of that
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Coming up next the new sysdfree resurrection

Just so when “some” were happy this is done and over with, POP goes the sysdfree community project again.  From now on, we will have a summary article of what is coming up next, and a series of articles discussing in detail the most worthy or note-worthy topics of interest.  Since  YOU haven’t been contributiong much to the community, it will be OUR topics of interest.

Why did we vanish for a little while?  After all this closure and prohibition to end the covid diaspora we have been burning some skinny road bike tires enjoying the end of spring and the starrt of a very HOT summer.  So now that it is getting hot, we will stay indoors again enough to write something up.  Yeeahhheee!!!! Or is it Yaaayyyy….!!!

1  Devuan:  Boring new stable release a year later  (you wanted an article .. go find one elsewhere).

2  Debian:  Script that runs and removes systemd and installs sysvinit and reboots to a systemd init free system.

3  Adelie (and Alpine) free and non-free independent repository

4  Black Artix, as if Artix wasn’t shady enough

5  Adequacy of traditions scripts (sysV or BSD inits) necessity of supervision suites (s6, 66, synit, minit, perp) or other alternatives such as OpenRC.

6  Split Linux, based on Void, security, anonymity, real firewalling, and more ….

7  Enough with supervising dry-cut monolythic services, the future is in modules (modular services and bundles of services).  If systemd was already burried and done with, this builds a pyramid on top, just so nobody will ever dear to open the mummy’s coffin.

8  Live streaming with Terry Barentsen on 2 wheels, no gas or dirty coal electric motors!

9  Kiss gets a new package manager

10  The shit (green energy environmental disaster) has to stop.  A documentary about the end of the planet’s ecosystem and who are the deceiving actors causing it.  It may be the most revealing 100′ of your life, or at least your recent world perception.

11  A song for our own resurrection:

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antiX – runit – brief stop and onto s6 and 66 : How to

1st some history/background:
Back some time ago an alternative to sysvinit was developed called daemontools (look at sources below) and people liked it.   From “it” runit was cloned, very similar but started from scratch, to be as small, as light, as simple, and as responsive as hw itself.  Runit set some goals for its development, kept being refined and eliminating any bugs, it worked on as many architectures as people could get their hands on, and the chief runit man decided to put it to bed.  Runit has been frozen in time by its developer.  Don’t expect it to catch up with other system development unless Void decides to clone it and develop it on their own, which in some ways they already do, but it is more polishing up the existing runit.

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Are you confused about debian/antiX/MX/devuan/Refracta editions?

Debian 10 Buster became stable a few months ago, the rest of the systems had to follow but took their time.  This is done every two years and creates a wave of confusion, especially those on forked versions of Debian, like antiX, MX, devuan, refracta, etc.  Even more dangerous and confusing it is if you are using testing and although testing during debian stretch was buster it now becomes bullseye, while your antiX/MX/Devuan is testing alongside Buster still.

After antiX announced 19 (Marielle Franco) as its current stable branch, MS followed its mothership the week later (a few days ago), while Devuan/Refracta are still chasing Stretch (Debian 9), what they call Devuan 2 or ascii.

So here it is, to take the confusion away from numbers and names:

Debian         *   Debian       *  AntiX/MX   *  Devuan
the last good1 *   7   Wheezy   *    13       *  0  beta-testing
old old stable *   8   Jessie   *    15       *  1 jessie (old-stable)
old stable     *   9   Stretch  *    17       *  2 ascii (stable)
stable         *  10   Buster   *    19       *  3 beowulf(testing)
testing        *  11   Bullseye *    21       *  4 chimaera (next testing)
unstable       *       sid      *    sid      *       ceres

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Debian based distibutions without systemd running testing

Beware:

If you have been running testing while Stretch (9) was stable you were indirectly following Debian Buster (10).  Since debian 10 Buster became stable today July 7th, those using testing instead of Buster repositories will be automatically jumping to the next release, called Bullseye (Debian 11).  The official Devuan repositories automatically “merge” debian and devuan packages, so testing will remain Buster till Devuan releases 3 (Beowulf) and therefore testing will become Devuan Chimaera.  If manually you have added Debian testing be careful of incompatibilities.  (some people do this, will swap Devuan merged for Devuan/devuan, and add a debian repository directly). Continue reading

Microsoft advice

If there is a problem with your system

reinstall

But not in Linux, come on guys, and gals, we can do better than that.  Say you don’t have the time to figure it out, say there is a point of no return with some changes (there is never such point, even in Debian, it just takes careful steps to retract from sid to wheezy), say it is not worth it, or say that you are clueless of what could have gone wrong. Continue reading

On the question of Arch based, Debian based, and independent

Now that our single Debian person has distanced *self from Devuan (systemd free Debian) and the rest of us made a new Arch person, we must answer a question relating to the discontinuity of Devuan coverage.  What is so different in Arch world from the Debian world?  Why is this importance in tor/onion networking internal to Debian that is less relevant in Arch?  We have identified several attributes that we consider different.

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U/EFI secure boot and debian/microsoft-ization

A short story: In recent years PCs have increasingly shifted from having a bios in charge of booting, whatever system can possibly boot from, to a system called EFI.  EFI in brief seeks a boot partition on disk that can be edited and filled with OS instructions on how the kernel of a system will be initialized and built.  A UEFI is a more specific form of an EFI that also introduces secure boot.  This means that only certain systems that are considered as “safe” can boot and such systems are certified and are issued a key (for a hefty fee of course). Continue reading

Freak Devuan experiment that did not backfire Devian/Debuan

As Devuan users have not been getting any feedback for why have things become so stale for two months, there are no updates seen in Jessie or Ascii, while the Debian train is running away with a daily influx of updated packages, there is not much convinvcing anyone can do for people to be patient.  Having bugs to deal with is one thing, not having bugs and expecting things to just evolve is a different issue.  So I thought what if?

What if questions sometimes break the best of systems.  So I cleaned my ascii installation and backed it up (using the classic dd on the installation’s partition).  If it broke I would not try to fix it too much, I’d rather just restore it and report back how and when it broke so others wouldn’t try the same thing. Continue reading

Speculation or worst case scenario for Devuan?

From a discussion on devuan forum dev1galaxy.org

About Devuan

Well, Debian software is behind mainstream distros anyway, Devuan will be on a par with Debian in the next release.
It just took time to purge the system, initially, of the entangled systemd.

Systemd is proposed to work like MS Registry, controlling most things from one encrypted file – totally against unix & linux principles.

foobar

@FOSSuser: Instead of packaging stuff Devuan packagers prefer to fight over the next iteration of their build infrastructure. Nobody has any idea where things should be headed, the current infrastructure is unmaintained (e.g. the Devuan gitlag is unsupported upstream by now!) and new people are being demotivated at every turn.

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Will the non-systemd community run out of steam?

The explosion on interest on Devuan seems to have reached its current capacity to deal with bugs.  Judging from the absence of feedback on the Dev1 forum on issues, lack of any recent updates, the summer vacation excuse seems to be running out of time.  It is easy for us to judge and criticize but we reach the point of cruelty unless we have dealt with development itself.  The interdependence of packaging is so complex that at some point the whole project needs to halt, fill all the holes opened, and then be able to move to a next step.  I suspect that part of the problem has been on putting too many eggs in a broken basket.  The basket in this case was Debian Jessie which had issues and in the past year it was put on hold to help speed up the delayed development of Stretch.  Stretch has had so much re-engineering that much of it can not transfer to Jessie.  Continue reading

The Bluez – Do you keep track of security alerts?

Today someone on the Devuan list asked about the status of Bluez

I notice in Ascii that bluez is at version 5.43-2

Does that version solve CVE-2017-1000251 + CVE-2017-1000250?

Either way, how would go about looking up that myself?

Debian has this notice: https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3972

Arch has sent out a security alert but as I don’t use bluez I didn’t worry about it. Continue reading