Debian based distibutions without systemd running testing

Beware:

If you have been running testing while Stretch (9) was stable you were indirectly following Debian Buster (10).  Since debian 10 Buster became stable today July 7th, those using testing instead of Buster repositories will be automatically jumping to the next release, called Bullseye (Debian 11).  The official Devuan repositories automatically “merge” debian and devuan packages, so testing will remain Buster till Devuan releases 3 (Beowulf) and therefore testing will become Devuan Chimaera.  If manually you have added Debian testing be careful of incompatibilities.  (some people do this, will swap Devuan merged for Devuan/devuan, and add a debian repository directly). Continue reading

Freak Devuan experiment that did not backfire Devian/Debuan

As Devuan users have not been getting any feedback for why have things become so stale for two months, there are no updates seen in Jessie or Ascii, while the Debian train is running away with a daily influx of updated packages, there is not much convinvcing anyone can do for people to be patient.  Having bugs to deal with is one thing, not having bugs and expecting things to just evolve is a different issue.  So I thought what if?

What if questions sometimes break the best of systems.  So I cleaned my ascii installation and backed it up (using the classic dd on the installation’s partition).  If it broke I would not try to fix it too much, I’d rather just restore it and report back how and when it broke so others wouldn’t try the same thing. Continue reading

Speculation or worst case scenario for Devuan?

From a discussion on devuan forum dev1galaxy.org

About Devuan

Well, Debian software is behind mainstream distros anyway, Devuan will be on a par with Debian in the next release.
It just took time to purge the system, initially, of the entangled systemd.

Systemd is proposed to work like MS Registry, controlling most things from one encrypted file – totally against unix & linux principles.

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@FOSSuser: Instead of packaging stuff Devuan packagers prefer to fight over the next iteration of their build infrastructure. Nobody has any idea where things should be headed, the current infrastructure is unmaintained (e.g. the Devuan gitlag is unsupported upstream by now!) and new people are being demotivated at every turn.

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