Two new distributions (Sulinox and Split Linux) to keep an eye on were added on our 2 lists of systemd without systemd. The early first list of all systems we know without systemd (including BSD varieties) and our more detailed list of 66 linux distributions without systemd.
The first is called Sulinox, an independent linux distribution, built on glibc with OpenRC as init, a base software available on repositories with a few varieties of desktops, and elogind present, available for X86_64 architectures. The distribution is aimed at expert users who know and like to build packages from source. To do so in a more organized way and maintain system integrity Sulinox has developed their own package manager called inary. For those of you who like to keep an eye on the source repository of a distribution and follow development in detail we warn you that comments are in Turkish, although the rest of the documentation for the distro and the package manager is written in English. Continue reading
There are new images available for March 2020
Links to March 2020 iso and docker images at the bottom of this message.
Both live images are capable of installing base, openbox, jwm, xfce4, or KDE-plasma, featuring the late 66 evolution 0.2.5.2-1 and the latest s6 suite of software.
66 0.2.5 features an additional modifier to the 66-tree functionality -S. With this option a bundle of services under a specific tree that is enabled will only start after another tree of services. (read https://wiki.obarun.org/doku.php?id=66-tree)
distrowatch.com reviews void
After the injustices done on Antix (reviewed 5 years ago but allowing all kinds of trolls to keep posting unsubstantiated negative remarks) and Obarun, it was Void’s turn to be reminded to pay dues to Distrowatch, otherwise the review will be sloppy and negative.
“While Void’s installer feels like a throwback to the 90s in its style and resembles the installers of BSDs and Slackware in its approach, it works quickly and experienced users should have no problem navigating its options“ Continue reading
You may think that we gave up and not “producing” anymore, but we haven’t. We are still at it, but we are not under this “productive” insanity pressure most others live with. If there is nothing interesting to report we will not waste your time. When we try various distributions that we either disliked or found nothing of interest, just another tried recipe with a twist of personalization, we just scrap the installation and move on. Then one day a couple of weeks ago we took on PCLinuxOS. If that says something, we are still at it, on a HD installation.
What a way to begin a month and a week, to have Distrowatch after a year and a half of listing Obarun (mostly inaccurately) to review Obarun and portray it as impossible to install.
Personally it is the installation software, the clarity and transparency of the installer, that inspires confidence that attracted me to Obarun. The ability to use any arch (or arch based) base image and to download and install obarun-install in it and use it to install Obarun is unsurpassed.
So what happened? What went wrong?
1 Can a good thing get better, and by how much? Wasn’t 66-info good enough, transparent enough, detailed enough? It was. It is no more. Gone!
2 Wasn’t the Obarun-Install software one of the attractions in Obarun, I thought, was the precision and ease of the installer. Gone (will be in a few days)!
1 66-intree & 66-inservice
One of the most used tools in the 66 suite of software was 66-info. 66-info -T gave information about service trees, and 66-info -S gave information about a particular service, its status, its configuration, its environment, etc. Really useful tools that we lacked in most other init and service managers. Well, it is gone, deprecated, dead and forgotten. BUT WHY?
There are several new things about Obarun that make the last batch of isos seem like they came from a different distribution. But it has been emphasized by its founder that Obarun is not a distribution but a modification of an arch-linux installation. I don’t for how long would this description be accurate, Obarun now looks like its on its way of become a complete and independent distribution, still based on Arch-Linux. Continue reading
A new distro without systemd has reached alpha stage : Devuandog
Here is a post about it : https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/Readme-build-devuandog-beowulf.html
What does developer have to say about systemd?
I chose for Devuan as a base (instead of Debian) because AFAIK the new expected Debian ‘stable’ (buster) doesn’t give the choice anymore to boot without systemd (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115124). Continue reading
On some very specific hardware a recent linux5.0 change caused a delay in tty/login appearance. It was found and fixed.
05-2 Base image 564MB (iso and cksum files)
05-2 KDE-Plasma live image (iso and cksum files)
A few weeks from now a new set of images will reappear as s6opts/s6boot are deprecated and 66 will move into the main obarun repositories (obcore,obextra, observice). Continue reading
You may ask what we are doing with ArchLabs when there is a tremendous amount of original non-systemd based distros on the list (our own lists for example). “Originally a minimalist, Arch-based live distribution with Openbox, the latest release of ArchLabs Linux is a radical departure from the original concept as the distribution is now designed for users who like to customise their system during installation. ” It may be coincidental but the installer is following a bit on the Obarun fashion where you install what you need and like and not what the distribution has chosen. Continue reading
A few days ago, while I was scanning through the site’s statistics I noticed that a search in google had lead here and the search term was Nutyx. I remember seeing the name on the long list of Linux without systemd and the more recent one based on distrowatch but I never had a chance to take a closer look. So the search had caught the name on the list and I decided I should give it a spin.