Myth busted: Can you run sway/wayland’s i3 without systemd or elogind?

For those who want to skip the discussion and get right to it follow the steps at this README

For a while, we have heard this justification, among distributions that have refused systemd as init, that elogind was adopted as a necessity for running wayland which is the future of graphical desktops.  Some future this is, but anyway.  For Artix it was a day one decision, for Void and Adelie it has been a year or more, for Slackware a few months.  But it is only a handful of distros at this point that have totally refused the use of elogind and stick to consolekit2 (which was recently upgraded upstream unlike common myth that has it abandoned).  Consolekit2 can handle logind functionality but can’t provide seat management.  So there is seatd, a daemon that just does this.  So count the different functions, unrelated to each other, that systemd provides all in one huge blob. Continue reading

Openbox tweaks and tricks – no {dbus,ck2,elogind,dm} no user services needed

Although this was created with Obarun/Arch based distros in mind it works pretty universally for nearly all distro that have openbox available (nearly all except for Adelie that is).  About building and installing obmenu-generator there is an older article here.

Originally published in the Obarun Forum, so here is a copy:

Openbox tweaks and tricks – no dbus – no ck2 – no user services

Minimalist tricks and treats

To start you need xorg-xinit and openbox installed:

From AUR download, build, and install obmenu-generator

You can use pacopts or cower if you don’t have something else as an AUR helper, ask for help if you want details, especially if you want to install yaourt, the best AUR helper ever created which was taken off AUR for a second time in less than a year.  I wish they would make their minds up! Continue reading

New Obarun live image based on all new 66 0.4 edition

A new Obarun live image has become available on July 10th 2020 and it brings many updates and changes.  From the live JWM session you can install a base system, Openbox, JWM, XFCE4, or KDE-Plasma with corresponding setup of 66 root and user service structure already set-up.  All recent (July 9th 2020) stable Arch-Linux upgraded software based and a much improved installer is onboard.  You can run the live system off of a CD (still fits) or Dvd or USB stick, or a virtual machine as a common disk system or a RAM only system from its syslinux editable boot menu.

NOTE:  Previous Obarun images and installer may not work without manual intervention to incorporate the new GPG keyring for Obarun.  Therefore older versions of pacman will not upgrade or install software, hence the net-install process will fail. Continue reading

What do we need computers for? What if!

First I would like to welcome cynwulf1 to the community and in specific to the small sub-sector of the community of contributors.  Cynwulf1 appears to have been around this sport long and with a wide spectrum of experience.  He recently contributed an article and some comments on the world of BSDism.

While recently I have worked closer with some of the creators of systems we use I have tried to learn how they think, or how they think differently from us users of systems.  The question that appeared to me is whether they can possibly know or care what “people need” or are they just driven by what they need for themselves, which in some cases is a system to work on, while creating systems.

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New base and KDE-Plasma live images from Obarun

On some very specific hardware a recent linux5.0 change caused a delay in tty/login appearance.  It was found and fixed.

05-2 Base image 564MB (iso and cksum files)
05-2 KDE-Plasma live image (iso and cksum files)

A few weeks from now a new set of images will reappear as s6opts/s6boot are deprecated and 66 will move into the main obarun repositories (obcore,obextra, observice).   Continue reading

Review: Nutyx GNU-Linux, if you play your “cards” right

Note1 (Nov-05-2020):  We have been informed that Nutyx has converted to full use of systemd.  There will be no more coverage of this distribution on this site.  Unless this is an unofficial fork of Nutyx which replaces its init with systemd.  If you know whether this is true or false please comment below and we would be happy to correct the record.

Note2 (Dec-17-2020):  Unfortunately this is true and our final story on Nutyx is published in a new article.

logo_nutyx_120A few days ago, while I was scanning through the site’s statistics I noticed that a search in google had lead here and the search term was Nutyx.  I remember seeing the name on the long list of Linux without systemd and the more recent one based on distrowatch but I never had a chance to take a closer look.  So the search had caught the name on the list and I decided I should give it a spin.

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Linux: current state of affairs – wayland – gtk3 – X11

Recent aggravation with software – that have worked without a problem for years and years while suddenly developing bugs – revealed evidence that they have been pushed (unnecessarily?) to comply to gtk3 standards (a still buggy sack of crap).   They now rely on gtk3 toolkits for the sole reason that distro managers want things to comply to wayland (another sack of crap).  …. because somehow “development” is leading towards wayland and away from the old trusty (but extremely complicated) X11.  We wish we knew more and more of the details to make detailed criticism hold water, but we have to rely on intuition.  When the fish stinks from the head don’t expect the tail to be any better.  We really like to get your input and feedback on how problematic this development has been.

While researching we located this article that is constructively critical of all linux, without advocating to leave it for windows or mac, but there seem many accumulating problems and directions in linux. http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

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Hold on your palemoon horses! Danger!

  All new Palemoon 27.9.1 is out (stardate: 20180507)

Did we or did we NOT say that this space is for users, by users, and it would be nobody’s puppet?  WE DID SAY IT!  So no developer/s will coerce this here pen to write supportive statements when they don’t deserve it, we have nothing to gain but everything to lose if we start playing these games.

In LIGHT of this intrusion into our systems’ security Palemoon has decided to utilize its  plug-in update check (which runs at every start and can possibly be disabled in about:config)  to pass a script that will disable a security feature.  That makes palemoon “malicious” in our book!  It is using an acceptable and known feature to do something else!

Read the comments below and those on palemoon’s forum (those that were not blocked by the emperor palemoon himself that is).  We will do research on what is at stake but from this moment we consider palemoon a problem, or at least not a solution.

We shall return where there is more light thrown into the subject and hopefully we are wrong, because we have relied on palemoon for most of our browsing and editing this blog. Continue reading

FigOSdev takes back what he said about Dbus

Maybe I Take Back What I Said About Dbus       by FigOSdev

Despite what I’ve said about worrying about Bus1 (I’m not worried) I’m increasingly of the opinion that getting rid of Dbus or making it easier to remove is a good idea.

The idea is, you shouldn’t have too much software that is running or even installed when you don’t need it. That’s really simple; defining “too much” is not, but…

I have Dbus installed. I am quite capable of finding every file it installs, and removing that file. I can stop it from installing again– no problem!

There are things I have installed that depend on it– probably also not a problem. However, let’s look at what those are: Continue reading

Running Refracta 9 Beta (Ascii) without libsystemd

yet another interesting article by FigOSdev:

Running Refracta 9 Beta (Ascii) without libsystemd

I’ve upgraded(?) my main machine from Jessie to Ascii, and to be fair, Ascii is still in Beta. I do hope it will improve.

libsystemd0 came in, and it’s funny, I thought I had that pinned. It’s almost impossible to tell if you have stuff pinned anymore, but maybe that pin was on a different machine or setup. Continue reading

Obmenu-Generator, how to get it running on any linux

Basically I am reproducing a very good article of instructions before it vanishes.

03262019  revised for debian/mint/ubuntu/devuan/antix/mx users see below:

[edit] Today Feb 15rh I am reposting this article and made some additions and corrections as the instructions may not work in all installations as I have found out.  With this correction it works in all installations we have covered.  Today we are adding Antix-linux to the list.

Hopefully the author will not mind for this no-profit reproduction.  The original, today, can be found on lxlinux.com/obmenu-generatorObmenu-generator works so well and can be edited to the maximum possible way that an Openbox Menu system can deliver. Continue reading