Popular mythology spread by IBM parrots elogind vs consolekit2 1.2.2

Thanks to the great work by Eric Koegel and Antoine Jacoutot we were not wrong again!

Parrots never think of what it is they say, they hear things (generally things are heard through highly paid and supported media that serve corporate and state interests) and reproduce the sound of them.  Not that they are dumb, but they can’t process rational language based communication. 

QUESTION: Why are you dumping consolekit2 and use elogind, that you know is just a significant piece of systemd, which further makes upstream reliance to systemd more acceptable and wide spread?

EXCUSE:  Consolekit is deprecated, it is unmaintained, it will never work with Wayland, and we must support wayland because that is the future.

QUESTION: Could consolekit2 be able to work with wayland?

EXCUSE: No, it never will!

QUESTION: Elogind, being a piece of the most convoluted piece of opensource software ever encountered is very big.  Shouldn’t this be a performance concern?

EXCUSE: No, because consolekit was also huge!

ANSWER:  Consolekit2 1.2.2 was released Dec.20 2020 and among its changes is a memory leak fix, NetBSD/OpenBSD fixes/compliance and more.  If you notice in the list of issues and discussion there has been a workaround to get ck2 to work with wayland in Gentoo since 2018. 

Consolekit2 is between a 1/5 to 1/6 of the size of elogind!

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Convert any arch-based distro from systemd to openrc

@artixnous artixnous

@nous from artix has issued a script that will switch an arch installation (and most arch based distros) from systemd to operc. For runit this script is easily adoptable and equally easy to convert from openrc to runit and back, following the wiki procedure.

The procedure has been elegantly labeled FUCKTHESKULLOFSYSTEMD

You can download the script and save it, then run it as root, or copy the text below into a script and run it, or you can just follow it by running each command manually so you can understand the process better.

Your original pacman.conf will be backed up at /etc/pacman.conf.arch – ENJOY

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We are a systemd free linux community

Edited again: 2018-11-15

As the previous site started out (08/2017) of the temporary need for Artix users to meet and exchange experiences, share solutions to problems, now that Artix has its official site, we have decided to move in the direction the site had already taken anyway.  Freedom and equality of access and exchange of information.

Antix is to Debian what Obarun is to Arch, and Devuan is to debian what Artix is to arch.  Such projects/distributions seem to be very promising in concept and execution.  Equally promising, if not more, is Void and Adélie linux taking an independent path.  Unfortunately we can not cover the progress of too many distros and at times we may have to drop a few from the list and concentrate on the few we believe there is future and hope.  We have dropped Devuan over a year ago due to serious doubts with the project’s management, and now we have decided Artix has to go too. Continue reading

On the question of Arch based, Debian based, and independent

Now that our single Debian person has distanced *self from Devuan (systemd free Debian) and the rest of us made a new Arch person, we must answer a question relating to the discontinuity of Devuan coverage.  What is so different in Arch world from the Debian world?  Why is this importance in tor/onion networking internal to Debian that is less relevant in Arch?  We have identified several attributes that we consider different.

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A closer look at a warrior, Obarun and S6

https://web.obarun.org/assets/obsite/images/ob_logo_slogan.pngBack in August 2017, when this project had started and we were eager in expanding the spectrum of interest to this site to more distributions than Devuan and Artix, we reproduced a brief description of Obarun as it was self-reported in Distrowatch, I believe. The primary initial interest was to promote distributions that made a conscious decision to steer clear of systemd interdependency and utilized different methods, approaches, and init systems. Obarun features the S6 init system that is simple and quick. As far as we can tell Obarun may just as well be called a popular S6 as it is the only distribution we can find with this init system.  Cromnix uses it along with OpenRC but unless we are wrong, Cromnix seems as an individual experiment and the developer works within Artix. Continue reading

Artix: missing dependency and how to get it – [arch-testing]

This only applies to those using Artix-Testing and have no previous Arch-linux experience.
Today some meandering in the system-testing directory resulted in a package upgrade of libpsl that requires an additional pkg, libidn2.

If you use Artix testing repos, you should also use Arch testing repo, libidn2 is there and soon will be in ours.

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Artix philosophy

After a brief discussion on the philosophy of Artix or the absent direction and philosophy of Artix we received this statement by one of the Developers (Nous).


For those who haven’t understood yet:

Artix began as a systemd-free Arch, is aimed towards intermediate to advanced users and never promised nobody anything. Take it or leave it.

There is not much to talk about really, it is what it is.

Artix display managers and Openbox or LXDE

I am amazed how well Artix has been running and once you get comfortable it appears to be among the simplest to configure linux distributions.

Artix initially came with sddm as a display manager and LXQT as its default desktop, for those that need one.  To see how alternatives are able to work I tried lightdm which I am comfortable with for years.  It run very well but came with the same boring login screen that is the lightdm constant basic login screen.  It does what is needed simply and reliably.

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Return of the Jedi (artix)

From the systemd-free.artixlinux.org site:

2017-07-27 — Return of the Jedi

After the Great Init Purge, the Sythtemd Order installed their dark components in almost every system of the galaxy. All software was forced to depend on the greed, hatred and deception of sythtemd and the Knights of the Old Linux were either converted to the dark side or exiled to the outer rim distros. However, after the initial persecution, the most devoted and powerful Linux Knights re-grouped and… Continue reading