What a way to begin a month and a week, to have Distrowatch after a year and a half of listing Obarun (mostly inaccurately) to review Obarun and portray it as impossible to install.
Personally it is the installation software, the clarity and transparency of the installer, that inspires confidence that attracted me to Obarun. The ability to use any arch (or arch based) base image and to download and install obarun-install in it and use it to install Obarun is unsurpassed.
So what happened? What went wrong?
The real short story is that the “reviewer” used an old iso, when distrowatch was notified of the latest release and they list the link of the latest release. This old iso image used the old installer which due to changes in repositories DOES NOT WORK anymore.
The not so short story now is that in the past three months people (devs and community through an open process of suggestions and recommendations – and contributions in some cases) the obarun-install package was rewritten from scratch. It was released late October and was placed in the new batch of Iso images (base and JWM) as 2019.11.02, for which Distrowatch was both notified and listed since early November (within the same day, without of course correcting all the information for the Obarun entry that has repeatedly been asked for 8 months now). Yet at the attempt to install, whoever did this, an earlier image was used, with the old installer and to top this off, as 66 software is developing, the old instructions of setting up a system does not lead to a bootable installation. The structure of the 66 software was changed so it can be portable to as many different systems (linux and other unix) as possible. It is easily transforming a number of different distros as listed on its forum, let alone arch which is its primary host. Void boots, antiX boots, devuan and other debian-based systems, adelie, alpine, all have been success stories of using s6-66 with minimal effort.
How can a distribution be held liable for its outdated images and software not being functional when new upgrades exist and are public for more than a month? This is insane! The only public review of Obarun on Distrowatch is based on obsolete old editions. The link itself listed by Distrowatch for downloading an image and to be used for installation was NOT USED. At any time in the past 16 months an old image could have been used the installer would have updated itself before the start to the latest revision. It is only this ONE TIME that the very new installer could not upgrade on its own. If it had been upgraded through pacman within the live image it wouldn’t have this problem.
Maybe it would be a good rule at Distrowatch to use its own links for downloading and installing a distribution.
The people at Obarun are speechless and very disappointed at this. This is a very cruel joke played on them when specifically there is so much pride taken for objectively the most advanced and updated installer in the industry. If the developer finds a bug at moment 0.00.00 and corrects it at 0.01.00, and you run the installer at 0,01,01″ second you are running a 1″ old installer. Who does anything like this?
Obarun install has rarely failed an installation, despite of traps set up by Arch rolling minute by minute, despite of weird combination of hardware …. despite of user deficiencies in knowing linux peculiarities, the community has been always supportive and encouraging for people to install.
I don’t know what to say, I sure do hope and expect a public apology by Distrowatch for failing to install because it is clearly their own fault for failing.
If you have an old image of Obarun and want to do an installation without redownloading a new image, just use pacman to upgrade obarun-install and obarun-install-themes and I would be happy to guide you through, either here or on the forum.
Note 12-14-2019: Although instructions on how to update the installer in their old image or suggestions to use a current image were sent to Distrowatch no response or announcement for this negative publicity has been received. Obarun’s entry on distrowatch shows 1 review: “after 4 tries the system installed could not boot”.
Then again, Obarun is not designed with “beginners in mind”.